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Keats
11-28-2008, 02:18 PM
Just tested seth's will in pvp and i noticed that the % of combo decreases in pvp :o
I have will at lvl 20 in pve i have 24% chance of more combo and in pvp 16%, didn't check ap gain and attack tho

are there others skills nerfed like that in pvp?

Vrael
11-28-2008, 02:28 PM
interesting question i didnt notice that. do you think it's true for brutal will too? i would assume that but maybe they thought only seth's was OP in pvp and not brutal

SparkGun
11-28-2008, 02:41 PM
I rarely see anyone use seth/brutal will in pvp so I'm not really sure.

Aura
11-28-2008, 06:48 PM
well if they dont nerf that....multi hit type team will own too much...
imagine 12 hits(4 hits for each) from 3 spears, gunner, axes, cannons lol...
it is like raining bloods XD

nem4z17esis
11-28-2008, 10:31 PM
well if they dont nerf that....multi hit type team will own too much...
imagine 12 hits(4 hits for each) from 3 spears, gunner, axes, cannons lol...
it is like raining bloods XD
I never seen anyone use either skill yet in FL,
but I believe everythings in FL is changed a bit to make it fair and to make the match quicker.

leawen
11-28-2008, 11:15 PM
I have seen either seths will or brutal in a pvp match .. it was used on the center row that was all spears and it was insane damage ... now this was in a vid and I am not sure if it was a koreon version or not ... but I have seen it used hehe

Aura
11-28-2008, 11:17 PM
lol you must be talking about olaby...
he is famous for using 3 spears in center row + seth's will...
that truly hurts....unless ppl will use mana trap to counter that...
(which is a even more rare case XD)

aphrodite
11-29-2008, 08:22 PM
lol, i get spooked just seeing ppl w/ 3 spears mid and a shaman, lol
most of the time i mana seal/snipe/etc. the shaman/oracle >_< lol and MOST of the time they die b4 they can brutal =x >.> once it was just bait... lmao, the char didn't even have seth =.= it was a fully healing oracle... =/

btw how did u get these statistics? the %

i find seth will gun hurts more than spears, since they got a pretty good chance of stunning a whole column instead of just 2 ppl
since that'll mean u'll have to awaken like every turn or else get stunned

Syrus
11-29-2008, 11:22 PM
I rarely see anyone use seth/brutal will in pvp so I'm not really sure.

Yeah with all the mana trap douche bags running around -_-.

Taikan
11-30-2008, 06:25 AM
well... makes sense anyway; it would be too imba to have a group of gunners pissing lead to their enemies xD; but still, all the stuff that changes from pve to pvp should be made public rather than a mystory to solve :S

HardcoreGamer
11-30-2008, 08:33 AM
Spears nerfed in FL, so it is not a suprise seth is willed too.

Brutal will not sure, din feel any difference.

methane
11-30-2008, 11:28 AM
Its hard to tell whether wills are nerfed or not without official notice from the game developers. Hard to tell also since the number of hits are pretty much random. Even with seth sometimes you can still manage to score only one hit.

HardcoreGamer
11-30-2008, 12:26 PM
For me brutal will is the same as ever. Just tried it in FL and mobs...

Maybe it is just a rare case where your percentage is low. Not every match has constant hit rate for Seth.

MrSharp
11-30-2008, 12:29 PM
well... makes sense anyway; it would be too imba to have a group of gunners pissing lead to their enemies xD; but still, all the stuff that changes from pve to pvp should be made public rather than a mystory to solve :S

lol,

yep seems the devs love giving mysteries to solve ;)

Ironhart
11-30-2008, 09:11 PM
Yes both wills are nerfed in pvp, would be silly if one wasnt since their virtually identical skills.

Trust me, if it worked the same as in pve, everyone and their mothers would be running maxed seth/brutal. With maxed seth my mercs commonly get 5+ attacks in pve. Almost feels like they dont stop shooting until the mobs are dead >_>

Teesa
11-30-2008, 10:39 PM
Interesting notice keep it up

Wraythe
12-01-2008, 06:59 AM
i agree seth/brutal is rare in pvp, but id rather choose my targets in pvp for stuns

Ironhart
12-01-2008, 06:58 PM
Stun is pretty worthless once you reach the point where everyone scrolls.

Will improves exponentially as your level goes up since the multihit is %age based, and theres really no denying the power of incredible amounts of raw damage (works better with melees since they always hit the same target).

meloku2
12-01-2008, 07:12 PM
lol you must be talking about olaby...
he is famous for using 3 spears in center row + seth's will...
that truly hurts....unless ppl will use mana trap to counter that...
(which is a even more rare case XD)

2 spear and 1 axe, who uses 3.. 3= max broken spear.