new to bow. pvp formation help

[aznpride1299]

hiya again. So i created a bow and i need help with pvp formation.
can u give me a snipe and sniple/spike formation levels 1-50 ? and what to change afterwards ? thanks
btw i wanna fit a dmf formation in there. 2 monks . thanks

[RonyKing]

hiya again. So i created a bow and i need help with pvp formation.
can u give me a snipe and sniple/spike formation levels 1-50 ? and what to change afterwards ? thanks
btw i wanna fit a dmf formation in there. 2 monks . thanks

*All Hail SarahPhoenix*

I always think of her when ppl make posts like these...

In the low levels snipe wont get u through much. Since there are alot of mercs thats come before the sniping ones. (exo, monk, etc.)


LvL 50s and 60s start of with something like this.


:vik::swm::exo:
:arc::art::gun:
:mnk::sha::malehero:

Thats your basic snipe/stun form. Reason why i dint put sec monk is becouse all the great dmf users have to pass the smf first.


LvL 70s-100 get more merc advantages and more merc options.

Snipe/Spike/Dmf

:spt::vik::femalehero: <---- i miss this female face >.<
:mnk::pra::pro:<---- id prefer an archer for twin silence but w.e
:ora::mnk::exo:

Something less SaraPhoenixisshhhh..

:vik::exo::witc:
:arc::jan::femalehero:
:mnk::mnk::ora:

Id suggest using this build. Its cheap, yet SUPER effective. So if u dont have the money to afford other builds,(elem,pirate,spartan reasons...) id start with this one.

Main Spartan Viking
Pirate Janni Monk
Exo Monk Oracle.<----- if u wanna be more creative, switch exo and main spots and trade oracle with Elem

sorry for no pics on last build, it only let me use 30 >.<

[aznpride1299]

o od thank you so much. i forgot to right i wanted a build like sara phoneix ROFL thanks :D
what do u mean by u have to pass as a smf first ?
i also wanna tank with my archer in pvp and pve :D thanks

[RonyKing]

o od thank you so much. i forgot to right i wanted a build like sara phoneix ROFL thanks :D
what do u mean by u have to pass as a smf first ?
i also wanna tank with my archer in pvp and pve :D thanks

that means u have to get used to SingleMonkForm b4 u try a DoubleMonk.

in pve, i wouldnt tank with archer main. they have low vitality and mobs love to gang up on just one chara. in lvls 1-80 its ok, since mobs there are very noobish with low attack power. So unless u have all +10, i recomend not to place archer main in frontline for pve.

*hands out cookies* hope locksley doesnt steal them.. T_T

[RonyKing]

o od thank you so much. i forgot to right i wanted a build like sara phoneix ROFL thanks :D
what do u mean by u have to pass as a smf first ?
i also wanna tank with my archer in pvp and pve :D thanks


btw, this is a non-sarahphoenix atlantica forumns. so dont speach highly of her much...


*hands out cookies*

[Locksley]

*steals the cookies again x2*

1. If you do good with single monk, generally you'll do fine with double monk. I've seen more than enough people who copy titan winner formations w/o knowing how to use it and make blunders all over. DMF that HG all over the place and ask to be stunned. I even have a special screenshot of DMF+punisher being stunned. wish I could really make a "epic pvp failure" pop-up for him.

Its like riding a bicycle first as a kid before trying to get your motorcycle license later in life.

2. snipe+DMF pretty much equals failnix build and there isn't that much other way to do it. haha @ rony comment. non-failnix forum. well, not really to a certain extent. I'm not a fan myself cuze I dislike watching her as much as I dislike watching ppl play 11 man behind the ball and "stall" for a 0-0 scoreline in soccer. but I'm ain't stopping ppl from copying or admiring the build though despite my own feelings abt it.

3. As to the "less failnixish" build rony put there, I'd actually advise against it for a couple of reasons.

vik-exo-witch
archer-jani-main
monk-monk-oracle

- lack of backup tank. while it is entirely possible to play good w/o the standard 3 melees, I dun recommend that for the average player cuze unless ur really good with pvp, most likely, you'll struggle in pvp with it. Feel free to do it if you feel ur up for a good challenge.
- you open yourself to warcry in the midline. the purpose of DMF is to block such "status effects". HG midline? whee, now ppl will have 2 free turns to punish ur HGed main and attacking by slipping under the witch if u dun move away. 3rd turn, mana seal and snipe away. down you go. bu bye.
- witch post-lvl 110, dies super fast when in front and eating bullets and arrows and the occasional staff whack. I had a witch in front in the past, and i say this from experience. although she is absurdly easy to heal if she doesn't die, the witch dying in ONE turn and giving u no chance to heal, that happens quite a fair bit (unless ur opponent is noob).
- ppl put one monk midline to HG, so there's always one monk under HG so the main will always have a passive heal running. not both backline. I know LH puts both backline, but that guy's just a gear whore and there's better DMFers out there.

[aznpride1299]

woah so much comment. ok thanks locksey and rony !!

[RonyKing]

*steals the cookies again x2*

1. If you do good with single monk, generally you'll do fine with double monk. I've seen more than enough people who copy titan winner formations w/o knowing how to use it and make blunders all over. DMF that HG all over the place and ask to be stunned. I even have a special screenshot of DMF+punisher being stunned. wish I could really make a "epic pvp failure" pop-up for him.

Its like riding a bicycle first as a kid before trying to get your motorcycle license later in life.

2. snipe+DMF pretty much equals failnix build and there isn't that much other way to do it. haha @ rony comment. non-failnix forum. well, not really to a certain extent. I'm not a fan myself cuze I dislike watching her as much as I dislike watching ppl play 11 man behind the ball and "stall" for a 0-0 scoreline in soccer. but I'm ain't stopping ppl from copying or admiring the build though despite my own feelings abt it.

3. As to the "less failnixish" build rony put there, I'd actually advise against it for a couple of reasons.

vik-exo-witch
archer-jani-main
monk-monk-oracle

- lack of backup tank. while it is entirely possible to play good w/o the standard 3 melees, I dun recommend that for the average player cuze unless ur really good with pvp, most likely, you'll struggle in pvp with it. Feel free to do it if you feel ur up for a good challenge.
- you open yourself to warcry in the midline. the purpose of DMF is to block such "status effects". HG midline? whee, now ppl will have 2 free turns to punish ur HGed main and attacking by slipping under the witch if u dun move away. 3rd turn, mana seal and snipe away. down you go. bu bye.
- witch post-lvl 110, dies super fast when in front and eating bullets and arrows and the occasional staff whack. I had a witch in front in the past, and i say this from experience. although she is absurdly easy to heal if she doesn't die, the witch dying in ONE turn and giving u no chance to heal, that happens quite a fair bit (unless ur opponent is noob).
- ppl put one monk midline to HG, so there's always one monk under HG so the main will always have a passive heal running. not both backline. I know LH puts both backline, but that guy's just a gear whore and there's better DMFers out there.

-there isnt supposed to be a back up tank.
-Do you know how much people have spartans in early lvl100s? That build is only open to Item Mallers. Since lowbie spartans have lvl 1 warcry and usually always misses, the build is ok. People still have LKs when they dont have Spartans. And i said this was a starter build to get $. By about lvl110 he should have enough money for a more experienced build
-Stop Haiting On Witch!!
- HG frontline. Then when one dies in front line... um.. ( i gotta ask shuhei this...)

*hands out cookies*

[Locksley]

there isnt supposed to be a back up tank.

- I know that. but I dun think he could do well with the build yet. read my post pls. if its not clear, tell me.

Do you know how much people have spartans in early lvl100s? That build is only open to Item Mallers. Since lowbie spartans have lvl 1 warcry and usually always misses, the build is ok. People still have LKs when they dont have Spartans. And i said this was a starter build to get $. By about lvl110 he should have enough money for a more experienced build

- Do you think all his opponents will be at lvl 100 when he hits div 6? I fought noob lvl 110+ ppl with spartans and pirates when I was lvl 95. not having a spartan in his own build doesn't mean he should not have his build prepared for one in the opponent formation. Look, I only had my spartan when I was lvl 118, but I had already hit div 1 months even before I got his lvl 100 upgrade and first 20 lvls of warcry.

-Stop Hating On Witch!!

- I'm not. but from using the witch myself, she seems to serve better in middle of midline.

between

spear-spear-witch
cannon-jani-axeM
oracle-monk-exo

and

spear-axeM-spear
cannon-witch-jani
oracle-monk-exo

I found I actually did better with the below when I had just hit lvl 100.

HG frontline. Then when one dies in front line... um.. ( i gotta ask shuhei this...)

- sheesh. If you are going to suggest an atypical non-cookie-cutter for a newbie to use, at least figure out how to use it! talk moar with shuhei ok?

anyway, if you like the build, personally I'd rearrange it this way

viking-exo-main
archer-witch-monk
jani-monk-oracle

so if opponent wanted to hit both monks, they're gonna be hitting a merc that heals easily and has resistance to ranged dmg.

[C3nsoredAx3]

why not axe main between exo?

[aznpride1299]

WOah okok ic. thanks .

[Locksley]

why not axe main between exo?

sorry, what do u mean by my main being "in between" the exo?