View Full Version : Question On Staff
Traphik
02-28-2010, 08:20 PM
Hi, I am kinda new to this game. I've only been playing for about 2-3 days now. I was wondering how I would build my monk skill wise if I am a scud staff. Atm my skills on my staff is 22 scud and 1 BoL.
:swm::spm:
:vik::mnk:
:arc::malehero:
This is my formation build at the moment. I'm only level 23.
Any suggestions for me?
Edit: Sorry. Well, both scenarios if possible. I'm probably mostly PvE though.
RonyKing
02-28-2010, 10:51 PM
Hi, I am kinda new to this game. I've only been playing for about 2-3 days now. I was wondering how I would build my monk skill wise if I am a scud staff. Atm my skills on my staff is 22 scud and 1 BoL.
:swm::spm:
:vik::mnk:
:arc::malehero:
This is my formation build at the moment. I'm only level 23.
Any suggestions for me?
When U Ask For Advice, Always Say What Your Going For.
PvP or PvE?
Traphik
03-01-2010, 11:20 AM
I am going for PvE, but if both PvP and PvE suggestions are availabe I'd appreciate it.
Cheesecake
03-01-2010, 01:19 PM
For early lvls try something like this
:bst::bst::vik:
:gun::witc::gun:
:exo::mnk::malehero:
This is an early lvl stun/aoe formation(need lvl 57 for exo, lvl 51 for witch and lvl 44 for BT's). I've personally never ran a staff main so I'm not the best at creating staff main formations. 2 BT's, witch and main for AoE's, 2 guns + exo mana seal for some added stun pressure, and the speed cast will help your staffs gain more AP. This will work for both PvP and PvE. For PvE, almost anything works.
In the later lvls, (100+), I'd consider:
- Removing one BT and putting main up front, cuz mana shield and SoP(shield of protection, monk passive) enables your main to tank.
- You could get an oracle, so that you have 1 merc dedicated to healing.
- Take out the 2nd BT for Spartan.
- Take out witch for elementalist
- Take out both gunners and pick between, inventor, jani, and cannoneer to replace the gunners.(You can have 2 janis, or 2 cannoneers, but you can only have 1 inventor)
:spt::malehero::vik:
:jan::ora::ele:
:exo::mnk::inv:
This is just a sample, as I said, I don't have exactly too much experience with staff mains, so feel free to change what you want. With your main tanking, you just need to know when to switch your main with your exo.
Traphik
03-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. Hmm so between protect and SoP which do you guys think would be better for me? Also between Gunners and Archers, which would be a better pick to be on my team?
Locksley
03-01-2010, 06:25 PM
- SoP if you stay in front often, if not go for protect
- gunners for stun, archers for snipe. there is no wrong way to pick.
Traphik
03-05-2010, 07:13 PM
Thanks for all the replys it helped me quite a bit.
I'm wondering what you guys think of this formation build:
:spm::vik::art:
:malehero::bst::vik:
:art::sha::mnk:
For PvE and PvP
Locksley
03-05-2010, 07:29 PM
Thanks for all the replys it helped me quite a bit.
I'm wondering what you guys think of this formation build:
:spm::vik::art:
:malehero::bst::vik:
:art::sha::mnk:
For PvE and PvP
Just....BAD.
- wtf are BT and viking doing in midline while you stick arty in front??
- single spearman not exactly very useful on his own.
- double freeze kinda sucks unless you're a pretty good axeM+N.vik user. most double freeze builds like to have spike so can double freeze asap after punchin a hole in frontline. your build is obviously not a spike one.
Traphik
03-05-2010, 07:55 PM
Well, I was just wondering because I saw this build in Colosseum and it pretty much raped me. My formation build was:
:swm::vik::spm:
:mnk::art:
:malehero::sha::arc:
I got raped by the double freeze. My front line wasn't able to do anything. Even if I have Holy Gaurd on my defense became shit on them so they just got raped by regular attacks.
Locksley
03-05-2010, 08:11 PM
Well, I was just wondering because I saw this build in Colosseum and it pretty much raped me. My formation build was:
:swm::vik::spm:
:mnk::art:
:malehero::sha::arc:
I got raped by the double freeze. My front line wasn't able to do anything. Even if I have Holy Gaurd on my defense became shit on them so they just got raped by regular attacks.
normally, when I do give pvp suggestions, they revolve around FL. FL has more monetary rewards, and has been around waaaaaaay longer.
For CL, what works is a brute force build, just whether you are aoe spammer, or left click spammer. what works for CL mostly dun work in FL, with a couple oof exceptions from really good players I've seen.
Traphik
03-05-2010, 08:17 PM
Hmm, I see. but yeah in CL I pretty much go raped by this build I barely did any dmg to him. I was only able to kill 1 of 2 of his vikings and that was my only kill.
Locksley
03-05-2010, 08:26 PM
most likely its cuze your build isn't a brute force build, so between you and him he just smashes through you faster. at my level, when we have mercs like spartan, pirate and wat not, matches get even more ridiculously fast.
me and my opponent were practically killing one merc per turn. its like...
1st turn - attack viking.
2nd turn - hwarang+dark archer attack = dead prophet
3rd turn - kill viking
4th turn - kill jani
5th turn - kill spartan
and so on. the match was finished in like...what? 3mins.
Traphik
03-06-2010, 11:16 PM
Yeah pretty much. He smashed through my mid and raped me. In your opinion should I take out my spearman for another character or should I take any of them out? I am getting a BT soon to occupy my last slot.
Locksley
03-06-2010, 11:48 PM
it boils down to whether you intend to FL more, or to go CL more. both leagues work differently, and what works for one, doesn't work for the other.
For CL, dual BT + witch + staffM = crap load of aoe at lvl 50+, since you are getting raped there.
Traphik
03-08-2010, 09:12 PM
Thanks for the replys Lock, Just curious what level do I have to be to get a witch?
Locksley
03-09-2010, 12:23 AM
witch is lvl 51. exo is lvl 57. I'm telling you about the exo cuze he has speedcast, which gives a minor heal+AP boost to staff wielders in your party. esp good with staffM.
Traphik
03-09-2010, 11:30 AM
Thanks Lock. I guess when I get my Exo my build is going to be:
:bst::malehero::swm:
:mnk::witc::arc:
:exo:::art::sha:
What do you think? My monk is going to be full SoP. Im not sure if I should take out my shaman and put in another BT because my HP gets raped pretty quick against magic attacks and my StaffM only has 1 Blessing, so that really won't do much.
Locksley
03-10-2010, 05:31 AM
since you only have 1 blessing, could keep shaman until ur main can get more lvl in bless.
the monk must put backline. against any decent stun build with archer silence+exo mana seal tandem, you are DEAD MEAT.
Traphik
03-16-2010, 01:28 AM
Alright so my build is :
:bst::malehero::vik:
:arc::witc::art:
:exo::mnk::sha:
What do you guys think? I was going to try to run another BT but I didn't really want to take out my viking. Also, just curious between Blessing and Mana shield which should I get? Atm I am thinking if I go blessing then I could take out my for another monk, so I have SoP + Protect on my main. Opinions/Suggestions? I usually do CL atm not a lot of FL.
Locksley
03-16-2010, 06:52 AM
Just get 1 mana shield, and then focus on blessing first. If you are going CL, take out either arty or archer for a 2nd BT. aoe works in CL decently. there is not wrong way to pick, but you choose between pansy stun pressure from arty, or archer's silence.
vBulletin® v3.8.2, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.