Getting Exorcist, someone has to go

[KotBehemot]

Hi,

i resisted the ,,pressure" of getting BT and witch as im not very fond of AoE but i decided im getting exo . My team is melee : axe main, two swords, two spearman, viking, archer, monk, sham . Obviously the question is, who should exo replace ?
I like having two swords, and two spearman, so im thinking viking or archer, cuz mana seal kinda replaces silence (?) and i have freezing axe .

i need some advice folks :cool:

[Kaiten]

Exos tend to replace the archer in many cases since they can silence with mana seal and have no row limitation. If you want to keep your archer, perhaps you can ditch a spearman?

[aphrodite]

ditch ur viking, u alrdy got axe main
not like u get to use freezing axe that much

[yuanjia]

yeah i'll go with the viking too. all in all, you have 6 melee already. viking's mdef and AP not too fantastic imho

[meloku2]

Viking is still useful for pvp and he is fat.. dont' ditch him! Ditch ur archer.

[Plum]

mana seal+silence is a good way to lock down the back row.id suggest replacing swordie once u get him to an ok lvl.

[HolyDot]

with ur axe main, jus drop ur viking..
his low mdef won't help much in pvp

[Flexor]

i vote for archer,thts wat i did too.

[D4NY0]

i vote to fire the viking.
Like many said before - you already got freezing axe and viking's mdef is horrible.

[Flexor]

ditch both viking and archer,both main and exo already serve the purpose for disabling front row and casters at the same time,sil only reached 2nd row and usually 2nd row got no powerful caster for u to silence.

[Ferishi]

Spearmen should be run in pairs to make the most of their AP draining, so you shouldn't ditch a spearman. You need swordsmen to tank (exo in front line is bad idea before guardian stones, IMHO). Monk and Shaman are obvious must-haves, and you can't ditch your main, so that leaves the archer and the viking.

Feel free to flip a coin on which of those two you should ditch. While both the viking and archer will be kinda redundant (Viking because you already have an axe main, and archer because exo can mana seal), an archer with silence can combine with your exo to completely shutdown the backrow staff users once you kill someone in the front row, but a viking can provide double freezing axe so you can almost completely shut down two rows once you kill someone in the front row, as well (but vikings always have that nasty magic defense and AP regen issue, of course)

[KotBehemot]

thanks for all the replies .

I will probably throw out viking ( i will miss double FA tho ) for the simple reason - archer is a bit higher lvl and i can use some gear from vik on exo . But unless leveling 60-70 gets alot harder archer will follow him pretty soon, as i think prophet is mandatory for melee builds, corret me if im wrong .

also quick question not worth making new topic about : from what lvl ( of skill or merc ) does lightning spear hit 3 rows ?

[Kaiten]

At the lv80 merc upgrade, spear's start to reach the 3rd row with lightning spear.

[LostCause]

You can ditch viking or archer as you already have somone in your formation that can replace them. which one should you choose is really base upon do you really need that second freeze vs another silence + ability to cancel scrolls. Which ever you find more important ditch the other.

[methane]

Oh for sure ditch archer for now. Viking i think hes really useful against pve. For pvp wise hes too weak to magic damage and has very slow AP. Gets screwed if a lighting spear got to him. Otherwise i recommend tossing Archer first since archer is pretty much too weak in all sense. Except for hitting flying units. Only reason i think archer is good for is being archer main. Archer main has the imba chaos wind that blocks your view if you pvp.....It makes it so hard to see.

[kaiser99]

I agree with ditching both....
Archer is useless... at least for now..

[Kaiten]

I agree with ditching both....
Archer is useless... at least for now..

Useless?? BLASPHEMY! Their silence is quite useful when you want to control your opponent's actions. I've underestimated their skill before but i've realized their potential. Perhaps your opinion is based on their lower pvp attack?

[Locksley]

Archer is the only one who can silence any merc out there, very dangerous if used correctly, but not that popular since nerf, though there are still archer spam builds running around.

[methane]

You see in a sense reason being why i said archer was weak cause firstly silence and freezing works the same way except silence can hit one row behidn the inital row if there is no hole in the formation. Second freezing has the same effect as silence but in the sense it totally imobilise enemy's action. 3rd yes nerfed dmg in pvp against staff. Well was wrong to say its useless but in my sense i truly think a viking is better than archer in a lot of ways. Also another thing to prove my theory is in the Arena. Double viking owns......

[jesada89237]

-Freezing axe and silence both force a monk to use holy guard.
-Freezing axe stuns a row of opponents, but is limited to the first row.
-Silence can stun the first and second row, which is useful for stopping chain Lightning spears

I suggest getting rid of the viking, if you already have someone that can use freezing axe.

[Kaiten]

Though freezing axes are useful, the viking's magic def is atrocious and fall quickly to magic, esp flame sword. 2 freeze is to say that your enemy doesn't holy guard and has a frontline merc die. If you can pull it off, gj. But most people despise having 2 vikings, or 1 for that matter.

Silence doesn't always force the monk to use holy guard. It only does if the player wants to use their skill which you've touched on at point 3.

Also, freezing axe reduce magic def a little, and i think slowing ap gain or just voiding it altogether. Silence reduces attack and defense I believe.

[nem4z17esis]

just replace the viking with ur exo.

[LostCause]

Freezing axe at high lv will also reduce armor but not by a lot. But at lower lv it is either add slightly or near 0. So it does have it good and bad. As for silence it can coem pretty handy. Not sure the exact value of how much armor and atk it reduce. It would be great if someone can provide a chart that give us a general idea of the debuff on it. Once you start fighting lv 80+ spearmen who constantly ap lock your merc. Have that silence is priceless but of course their monk can holyguard it to remove it but that just help you avoid 1 lighting spear as he is out 1 action out of the 5.

[LtKillroy]

Viking easy, with an axe main viking becomes redundant.

[Spydermage]

i vote for viking out too. archer, apart from the usefulness of silence, she can also penetrate to enemy at the back. good for taking down mob that uses magic and sit at back row.

[AtsushiHayami]

well i'd say Ditch the Viking,but the archer is a good choice too thou she makes hell of a lot of dmg if you give her good equip

[Vrael]

drop the viking, the archer can be used to try and stunlock the enemy's monk so that he can't holy gaurd your freezing axes off of anybody