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Demon
11-16-2008, 09:53 AM
how does that work?
rates of break / success anyone?

A13x
11-16-2008, 09:58 AM
I Think rates are 50/50 of succes. I dont use them - fails way to often.
Better wait till you have 2 kind of an item and enchant you items. :D

Newell
11-16-2008, 10:04 AM
I have no clear % for this. However I have some experience.

I needed my +10 weapon, and I had everything but the final 300k +5 for the chain to complete. I enchanted everything from +5 to 9 in order to save a little money. I failed each and every item.

I crafted 15 rings before. I failed a little voer 50% of the time. But then my 6 +1's turned into +2's with no failures, and then turned 4 of them into +3's. I feel rings have a better chance then other armors.

It is very risky but not insane to do it. Xargr on myc does it alot. Saves him money in the long run i think.

Ebile
11-16-2008, 03:57 PM
When you reach about Lv.80 or something, you will find that the price of the equipments are way too much expensive to buy and enchant, so enhancing is a better option.
The rate of breaking does not matter much, as everything counts on your luck. D:

Kiena
11-16-2008, 03:58 PM
I find it most useful to do on +0 items - if you lose it, too bad, if you succeed, you now only need two to make a +2. Or you might get lucky and get +3 or higher. In general, though, I don't find it worth it, *except* for stuff you craft yourself - because you usually have plenty of it and if you enchant it a bit, you get more money for selling it.

Best places to find enhance stones, btw, seems to be the guild dungeons. I've gotten a ton of int enhance from the snake shrine and a fair amount of adv enhance from marksburg castle.

Bilge
11-16-2008, 05:13 PM
The fact that Vulcanus breaks your equipment most of the time really negates the benefit of being able to enchant without a sacrificial item. Therefore I believe enhancing is pointless.

Newell
11-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Some look at it that way Bilge. For beg items, enhancing is not the thing to do. But for level 100's the frozen equipment is around 7mil each piece, so enhancing those is beneficial at the time.

Kaiten
11-19-2008, 08:17 AM
Enhancing is said to have a 50/50 rate. So it's pretty much a coin flip. As for enhancing high level items...sure it may save you money...but that's if it succeeds...If it breaks?

Ferishi
11-19-2008, 08:20 AM
Losing a 7 million gold item to a coin flip suuuuucks.

instakiller
11-19-2008, 11:07 AM
Ya, enhancing is very strange in the way it works. First time i enhanced, i had like 8 to work in a row. made +4 dark knight sword and some +3 lvl 20 str rings. After that, i can barely make it to +4 now. So it is really pure chance. Also in the game, they so it is more then 50% chance, they dont give an exact value.

aphrodite
11-19-2008, 01:20 PM
u guys can't say that its above 50% or anything, just from ur own experiences
u need more ppl's data and not just ur own, after accounting 18-20 ppl's upgrades and number of upgrades they did, enhancing, he number is roughly around 50%, however, higher chance of skipping an upgrade as opposed to enchanting
stones cost more, so....

LostCause
11-20-2008, 01:40 PM
I think 50/50 sounds about right as there are time I happen to be sitting near the bazaar and the text would be spamming my screen and it is pretty rare to see a long streak of success or failure. usually 1-3 fail or success and then u will see the other pop up. But one thing i happen to see happen most often is +3 and +4 tend to work or it just happen that all the time i been there there are ppl who is trying to go +3 and +4. There is no way of me telling as i dont stay there all day long collecting the data. I just happen to watch it everytime i go there to trade in pts or to do some enchancign myself.

MiaFLSurf
11-20-2008, 06:28 PM
Ive been keeping track actually...... and I have had a 49% success rate so far...

Kelnari
11-21-2008, 12:09 PM
just curious, about how many enhances do you think you've attempted for that 49%?

ziv
11-25-2008, 11:49 PM
The fact that Vulcanus breaks your equipment most of the time really negates the benefit of being able to enchant without a sacrificial item. Therefore I believe enhancing is pointless.

Enhancing is said to have a 50/50 rate. So it's pretty much a coin flip. As for enhancing high level items...sure it may save you money...but that's if it succeeds...If it breaks?

It very clearly says on the enhancing window that enhancing has a greater than 50% chance to succeed. What part of that do you people not understand?

Kiena
11-26-2008, 01:48 AM
It very clearly says on the enhancing window that enhancing has a greater than 50% chance to succeed. What part of that do you people not understand?

The part where not everything is translated correctly and the gms don't tell us exact numbers? ;) Not saying it's not >50%, but I can understand why people don't trust it. And on top of that, it's >50% spread over everyone - doesn't stop one person from having no luck at all on it.

D4NY0
11-26-2008, 03:34 AM
doesn't stop one person from having no luck at all on it.

that person would be me^^
honestly - i tried enhancing about 20 times - and it succeeded 6 times... so for me enhancing is to risky ;)

Arietta
11-26-2008, 04:18 AM
luck messes with you :/. Today I enhanced about 8 important items, all 8 succeeded.

LUCK!

Newell
11-26-2008, 04:50 AM
I feel rings have the most luck.

I enchanted overall 30 +0's. Mined you 15 were +0 some +0. But if I were to enchant them it would equal 30 +0's combined in various levels.

I ended up with 28 +0's combined into various enchant levels. I had my +'d rings, sure I lost 2, but I saved a shitload on stones.

Just to expensive to enchant those.

aphrodite
11-26-2008, 04:38 PM
yes, over 50% O_O broke 4 bk, 14 anu b4 i got a +3 T_T nothing succeeded
I BLAME FALSE ADVERTISING =|!

Jimsta
11-26-2008, 05:16 PM
I feel rings have the most luck.

I enchanted overall 30 +0's. Mined you 15 were +0 some +0. But if I were to enchant them it would equal 30 +0's combined in various levels.

I ended up with 28 +0's combined into various enchant levels. I had my +'d rings, sure I lost 2, but I saved a shitload on stones.

Just to expensive to enchant those.
Heh, I've been doing some enhancing my self recently.

It's actually really good, if you know what you're doing.
If you notice there's usually a pattern. (that's why you see those high levels putting in spirit equips before they bust out a frozen equip)

just watch the fails/success rates and time your enhancing. I've been like 10/12 within the past day...
Enhanced cannonmater ring to +3,a spearmaster ring to +2, and 2 spearmaster rings to +1, not to mention my mains set of +1 - +2 gold armor.

for dl;dr people, just wait untill 2 fails happen in a row then try to enhance an item.

Arietta
11-26-2008, 05:57 PM
yeah.... seems to be a chain of fails then a chain of successes, thats what ive seen and its entirely 100% speculation so dont get all angry over me hypothesizing that... (some people will)

Krullthor
11-26-2008, 07:30 PM
Its very difficult to judge the odds of failure success with a few tries since usually you can only be certain of the % when calculating it to the infinite, its sorta like a poll about an issue and you interview like 10% of the population and get a result, that result aint accurate, gives a broad idea of what the result could be but aint accurate.

The get 2 failures on crap item and then try the good one might help a bit but youll still get disapointments cause loosing streaks and winning streaks are bound to happen, pitty we dont know the real values of success/failure % hehe.

Keats
11-27-2008, 02:14 AM
Enhance can be good but from my own enhances, i had around 70% failure so i don't do this too much^^

Teesa
12-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Enhancing is worth it to gamble on the luck, for high level equipment enhancing is the only way out, you wouldn't want to spend 20 m for enchanting just a amour into a +2, while the money can be used to buy more things,

Marisa the Rainmaker
12-02-2008, 05:01 AM
yeah.... seems to be a chain of fails then a chain of successes, thats what ive seen and its entirely 100% speculation so dont get all angry over me hypothesizing that... (some people will)

Doesn't really work that way. I had plenty of runs where I had a successful enhance to +1 followed immediately by a failed enhance to +2, multiple times in a row.

meloku2
12-02-2008, 01:54 PM
but if you fail to enhance you lose like 10mil, i would rather spend 20mil for +1 then having a chance to lose 10mil

crazynjay
04-11-2009, 02:14 AM
vulcanus is the most hated npc in atlantica ^_^ he broke a lot on my +5 weapon :(:(

C3nsoredAx3
04-11-2009, 11:58 AM
vulcanus is the devil in disguise.

BuzzardJoe
04-14-2009, 09:23 AM
I'm interested in receiving feedback on this "enhancing vs enchanting" calculator I posted on a different thread.

http://www.myatlanticaonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10614&postcount=53

Cheesecake
07-12-2009, 05:07 PM
Meh @ Bilge, enhancing is not pointless, its a gamble, and you will find its uses in lvls 90+ when eqps really sstart getting expensive, i personally love to enhance :P, ive been getting full +2-3 dragon heart sets for all my mercs, no higher cuz im kinda poor, enhancing has saved me millions. Ive enhanced one +10 which was nice, cost of the stones total was under 500k, saved me having to buy 1056 +0's and blowing a load of time enchanting them, cuz thats 2k enchant stones xD

Atlair
10-14-2009, 03:59 PM
It really depends what + you want. Like if you want +10, your best bet is to enhance because you'll need 629 or 1056 forgot items.