Rate of Atlantis Coins

[Jimsta]

Ok, I know that the coins go up in price after sometime, but does anyone know how much?

I heard it was like 5% of it's original value, and it goes up every 6 days or week or something like that?

Clarification would be nice since I've just been selling them to npc instead of saving them. :\

Might want to buy a lot then take a break playing, then come back to find out they're a lot more. :]

[A13x]

Yea heard almost the same - 5% but i heard every 7 days, but not sure about this.

[Jimsta]

Ahh, that would make more sense actually...
Heh

[Demon]

5% increase as in...
1050 (original) x 1.05 = 1 week = 1102.5 (after 5% increase)
than 1102.5 x 1.05 = 2 week = 1157.625 (after 5% increase of last increase)

like is it growing compoundly? (not sure if thats right term)

or growing simply?
like just 1050 x 0.05 = 52.5 = increase per week
as in 1050 + 52.5 = 1102.5 after week 1
1102.5 + 52.5 = 1155 after week 2

[Jimsta]

I think the first week it was just 1000, then next week it became 1050, because I've been seeing it increase by 50 each week. (currently like 1200?)

[LostCause]

I dont have the true answer but from the value that has been record it can not be a compounded amount. it seem to be a linear 5% increase every week and that is the reason y the # is always ended in a multiple of 50.

[Newell]

Good thing I've saved nearly 1300 of mine. Originally back up money. But now this little increase might help as my pile grows.

[Macko]

Not much but always something...

[diablolover2]

I think I'm going to save mine.. And you can always make more from more FL play!

[twixter]

its that worth to keep it for 50 coins per whole week? i think i can earn more when use this cash to buy materials and craft something:)

[Axiom]

its that worth to keep it for 50 coins per whole week? i think i can earn more when use this cash to buy materials and craft something:)

Yeah, saving them for 50 coins extra each is really rather negligible. I've just sold them as I've gotten them. However if you're one of the richy rich players and don't need the money right it wouldn't hurt to just save them.

[SparkGun]

Well you start getting higher lvl and enemies start dropping gold bundles, you just tend to save them so I do the same to my coins from the FL and WC. Another thing is that I don't want to keep running back to a NPC to sell my coins.

[Jimsta]

Well, Once you start getting gold coins from tournaments, they sell for over 1mil each now. They go up 50k per week, so saving those would be a good idea.

[LostCause]

Best way to think of those coins is they are a bank. U put you gold in them and they will give u interest in return :D

[crazynjay]

Best way to think of those coins is they are a bank. U put you gold in them and they will give u interest in return :D


that a good idea keep it in the bank but what is the interest rate in the bank?:femalehero:

[meloku2]

wait, wait the atlantica coins u get from Fl and Wk goes up?? SERIOUSLY? cuz i always sell mine.......

[twixter]

yup the price going up :)

[Macko]

Yea it goes up like 5% every week.

[Ruggan]

Yeah if you're just making 50 coins per week off each one, it doesn't seem like that much of a royalty. Plus, you'll never realize the profit unless you sell and forfeit the future interest. Time discounting taken into account you're probably better off selling them when you recieve them for the two-four weeks worth of cash.

[MiaFLSurf]

Why not just save all of them until you really need gold?

Its like a mutual fund...llong term goals!

[Taikan]

i dont think that 5% is worth it... we'll have to take inflation into account, and since there is a constant flow of money entering the market,if price increase (inflation) is over 5% u r better off selling them asap :P

anyway, determining in-game inflation is as tricky as stock market prices; at peak hours the number of transactions may severely affect an item price, but only as a momentary shock... making it difficult to estimate a real market value, and therefore keep track of inflation :P

[MiaFLSurf]

The point is... thats emergency gold at all times.... its nice to forget about it, and when you need it, using it!

[meloku2]

so if i get more coins does it reset the timer? or it still count with my other coins?

[Keats]

I think it's the value in general that goes up so new coins will already be at the new price.
Personnally, i keep them since i don't need money right now

[ziv]

I think it's the value in general that goes up so new coins will already be at the new price.
Personnally, i keep them since i don't need money right now

So then eventually they'll be worth some ridiculous amount of gold and free league will cause tremendous gold inflation... That doesn't sound like very good planning on the developer's part.

[MrSharp]

So then eventually they'll be worth some ridiculous amount of gold and free league will cause tremendous gold inflation... That doesn't sound like very good planning on the developer's part.

Yes, I have to say this idea is very strange to me.
The value of these increases by 5% but the number of these coins in the game increases a lot through free leagues too.
At the same time many players are getting money from fighting mobs.

Surely inflation will be sky high?
Unless they are relying on money going out of the player's hands back to the game
(perhaps through biying marketplace items at fixed price/ losses through arena gambling)
Got a guild mate who is especially fond of the latter ;):mnk:

[Aura]

it is just like market....
ppl will become rich over time.....since everyone is rich, the market price for anyone will go up.....so do these coins

[Krullthor]

The more money ppl have the more stuff they buy wich will translate in prices starting to go higher so basicly all things even out i would guess, by the time these coins are worth a hefty amount of money chances are your already high lvl and able to pull out good amounts of money without resorting to the coins.

[MrSharp]

Meaning the later players join the game, the bigger the disadvantage for them then.

[Taikan]

Yes, I have to say this idea is very strange to me.
The value of these increases by 5% but the number of these coins in the game increases a lot through free leagues too.
At the same time many players are getting money from fighting mobs.

Surely inflation will be sky high?
Unless they are relying on money going out of the player's hands back to the game
(perhaps through biying marketplace items at fixed price/ losses through arena gambling)
Got a guild mate who is especially fond of the latter ;):mnk:

Also if there r a lot of items in the market, prices would drop... so its inflation from a monetary sourece(lots of money in the market), but we also have events and items giveaways... and a constant flood of items that go along with the flow of cash... so i don't think inflation may spin out of control (not at least in the short and medium term)...

the only force able to heavily disrupt the economy would be those pesky power lvling and gold services... that'd have a nasty effect on ecnomy... like counterfeit (fake money... not sure if that is the term= in rl :P

[LostCause]

I dont think 5% is enough to throw the whole market into the crazy inflation you guys are refering too. It might add to it but not going to be the cause. As ppl lv they earn a lot more money and that amount is way out pace the 5% a week. If you grind you income can increase by a few fold once you move to a new dung or hunting ground.

Also with arena and fix price it helps to take part of the money out of the system. If 5% is that great of a concern then I think the weekly reward would be more of a concern as I have heard it is 45m for the winner plus what ever else the other receive for joining and winning. Even if we just count the winner it is 3x a day for 2 day a week that is 6x45mil that is a lot of money and the inflation so far has been ok so it will probably be ok till gold farm flood the market then that will be a differnt story.

[HardcoreGamer]

I generally just sell off the coins. Better get the money early to pimp your eq or use it for betting, the return is higher that way.

[MiaFLSurf]

Haha, if I did that I would lose it all... I stink at arena betting!

[HardcoreGamer]

There are other forms of betting ;)

Not gonna tell you what I meant, try to figure that out. :)

[leawen]

hehe the few I got I tossed into my warehouse in rome ... figured I just keep them and build up the total amount of them till I had to start a new pile .. I am doing this witht eh 100 coin bundles also I have 2k+ of thouse and I figure when I get 9999 then I would turn them in and start over

[ziv]

I dont think 5% is enough to throw the whole market into the crazy inflation you guys are refering too. It might add to it but not going to be the cause. As ppl lv they earn a lot more money and that amount is way out pace the 5% a week. If you grind you income can increase by a few fold once you move to a new dung or hunting ground.

Also with arena and fix price it helps to take part of the money out of the system. If 5% is that great of a concern then I think the weekly reward would be more of a concern as I have heard it is 45m for the winner plus what ever else the other receive for joining and winning. Even if we just count the winner it is 3x a day for 2 day a week that is 6x45mil that is a lot of money and the inflation so far has been ok so it will probably be ok till gold farm flood the market then that will be a differnt story.
I'm not talking about people investing in coins. I'm talking about years down the road when free league gives out 10 or 100 times the money it does now. It'll eventually surpass any other money-making opportunity, and become a huge gold faucet which will inflate the currency.

[HardcoreGamer]

i don't think they will increase the ammount of coins given... for now it is more or less a set ammount.

[Jimsta]

i don't think they will increase the ammount of coins given... for now it is more or less a set ammount.

Well, you get a decent amount already. A win in div 10 gives you 10 bronze coins + 30 battle points, not to mention thats only div 10. Still 9 more to they have yet to release, and once you get in those lower divisions, the reward will be much, much higher since you'll be playing against tougher people. (no more div 12 level 60 guy vs. a div 10 level 100 guy)

[Arietta]

i store em, for use in a rainy day... you know after i go crazy and buy gear cause im too lazy to farm it myself

[ziv]

i don't think they will increase the ammount of coins given... for now it is more or less a set ammount.

They effectively do by increasing the value of the coins.

[MrSharp]

Also if there r a lot of items in the market, prices would drop... so its inflation from a monetary sourece(lots of money in the market), but we also have events and items giveaways... and a constant flood of items that go along with the flow of cash... so i don't think inflation may spin out of control (not at least in the short and medium term)...

the only force able to heavily disrupt the economy would be those pesky power lvling and gold services... that'd have a nasty effect on ecnomy... like counterfeit (fake money... not sure if that is the term= in rl :P

Good point Taikan!
Something I';ve missed completely.

If the influx of new items counteracts the influx of cash, then we have balance.
Supply ~ demand.

Never been really good at this kind of thing. Or the stockmarket, or politics for that matter.:art:

[Arietta]

hey, ill just make sure to snag any coins on the market that fall below the npc sell price :)

[Taikan]

hey, ill just make sure to snag any coins on the market that fall below the npc sell price :)
lol... the funny thing is u can actually do that... having 100-400 profit per shard; +50xeach coing u could actully make nice profit out of it all :P

[MrSharp]

Hey, just o clarify.
Are we talking about the alantis shards here? Or the gold coin bundles?... or both?

[Keats]

atlantis
gold coins price do not vary

[MrSharp]

atlantis
gold coins price do not vary


Was confused by the "atlantis coins" term in thread title.

Thanks for clarifying. No longer shall these goin coin bundles occupy an oh so precious space space in my inventory!

[Ferishi]

Thanks for clarifying. No longer shall these goin coin bundles occupy an oh so precious space space in my inventory!

Heh, you wish. Every time you sell your gold coin bundles to an NPC, a monster 1 minute later will drop ANOTHER one to take up precious space in your inventory.

[HardcoreGamer]

yeah.. most shadow mobs drop em, you cant run away from it.

[Ferishi]

I get trucktons from lots of normal mobs, too. They're EVERYWHERE, so you might as well resolve yourself to always having some taking up an inventory slot, lol.

Just make sure you sell them before you get over 10,000 because that's the max one stack will hold (beyond that point, they'll start taking up TWO inventory slots)

[Vrael]

it's probably better to sell the shards when you get them like others have mentioned. if you are constantly saving them hoping for interest, you're not technically making any money from them

[Marisa the Rainmaker]

it's probably better to sell the shards when you get them like others have mentioned. if you are constantly saving them hoping for interest, you're not technically making any money from them

Alternatively, you can hoard them and sell them only when you need the money to buy something. That way, they are like artificial gold banks that take up slots, but has a tax rate of -5% compounded daily.

[Arietta]

I get trucktons from lots of normal mobs, too. They're EVERYWHERE, so you might as well resolve yourself to always having some taking up an inventory slot, lol.

Just make sure you sell them before you get over 10,000 because that's the max one stack will hold (beyond that point, they'll start taking up TWO inventory slots)

Not the goin coin bundles, but the pvp coins that you get for FLing :)

[Krullthor]

Usually i keep them untill i need to use the money, its not like the price goes up often or anything but you dont gain anything by selling right away unless you need the money either.

[meloku2]

saving my gold coins that i forced aura to gimme, i'm gonna leave it for 2 years and see what happens to it xD.