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Flexor
11-15-2008, 09:09 AM
AoE
:witc::bst:

Balance:
:spt::lak::swm::exo:

Stunners/Ranged
:inv::can:


Am trying to play a
:bst::exo::lak:

Is there any other possible front liner apart from sword/axe main? Spear/viking is abit weak to tank

Balathorn
11-15-2008, 09:19 AM
Assuming all mercs in the info window available, the "standard" front row for any build uses a spartan and a lk with the third up for debate between BT (if you have lots of melees) and exo (you're lacking "real" tanks). With our current metagame you might get away with a front row viking since magic damage is lacking in the later levels and everyone and his dog runs will builds (which do normal damage).

Ranged mercs in the front-line are not going to be there for long becuase they have way less HP (gear gives less vit, and most have low base vit) and if they don't evade some hits, they can take quite some damage from a "full frontal attack".

Swords are a special case since they serve little purpose at high levels if you don't use one of their "unique talents" (hellflame or DS). They can tank, ok, but you don't want your mercs to "just tank" most of the time.

My2c

Flexor
11-15-2008, 09:27 AM
Assuming all mercs in the info window available, the "standard" front row for any build uses a spartan and a lk with the third up for debate between BT (if you have lots of melees) and exo (you're lacking "real" tanks). With our current metagame you might get away with a front row viking since magic damage is lacking in the later levels and everyone and his dog runs will builds (which do normal damage).

Ranged mercs in the front-line are not going to be there for long becuase they have way less HP (gear gives less vit, and most have low base vit) and if they don't evade some hits, they can take quite some damage from a "full frontal attack".

Swords are a special case since they serve little purpose at high levels if you don't use one of their "unique talents" (hellflame or DS). They can tank, ok, but you don't want your mercs to "just tank" most of the time.

My2c

Exo is more important than BT skill wise,canonneers and especially inventor can do pretty well in the front with princess in the formation.

Well all swordman will be ditched later in the game lol.

Axiom
11-15-2008, 10:08 AM
Well all swordman will be ditched later in the game lol.

=( I like my 3 sword front line

They tank while I do focused AoE and DoT stuff with my mid/back row. Then when their HP gets too low I drop a maxed deadly strike off of it and pretty much take out my choice of character that turn =D

Locksley
11-15-2008, 06:30 PM
i doubt there are any other mercs that can stand frontline, besides the odd frontline viking I see once in a while. In that case, he's just begging for lightning spear spam from me. At least those spears have some use besides being willed and *ahem* being everyone and his dog's willed mercs.

kaiser99
11-17-2008, 10:41 PM
:spt::lak::witc:
standard frontline tanking formation~~
and this is what i intend to go.... hope spartan dont be too hard to get...
and need more levels!!

Flexor
11-18-2008, 07:11 AM
:spt::lak::witc:
standard frontline tanking formation~~
and this is what i intend to go.... hope spartan dont be too hard to get...
and need more levels!!

Spartan will be like hell to get,prepare for hell!

Im serious.

Oh~ and im against witch front row :3

kaiser99
11-20-2008, 02:26 AM
Why?
Even though it risk the second row getting bash by spear if nt careful...
But overall... witch have high mDef and only magic and range atk can reach her....

Protect the merc behind her from magic atk too...
is it that she's too cute that you dont wan her to be in the tanking row?

Ferishi
11-20-2008, 07:40 AM
Spartans require sending off a level 100 merc to be independent and then giving that merc a bunch of high end crafted items until that merc finally sends you a shiny soul stone.

AND THAT'S THE EASY PART.

The hard part? Nation only dungeoun that requires 30+ players to beat and takes 3 hours to do so only to get 3 boxes out of it (of which all 30 players will want) and those 3 boxes have a RARE chance to drop the item you need for the Spartan quest. Yum yum.

I think most end-game teams in Korea don't have a front row witch because the whole point of the front row witch is to defend someone from magic attacks, except most high end teams have their Exo be the third front liner and he already has high magic defense (while the lady knight and spartan have good enough magic defense)

Wraythe
11-20-2008, 01:07 PM
The Spartan seems worth all that trouble though heh. Ive seen worse in other MMOs i wont mention names heh

Ferishi
11-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Yea, Spartan is pretty much a must-have for any serious PvP formation. Honestly, it's not like there's anyone else you can put on the front line who comes close when you look at the whole picture. You can only have one lady knight there, and swordsmen are junk by then, so that leaves you with a spartan and even THAT'S not enough to give you a full front line since there's still that third spot where people are usually forced to slap in a witch, exo, axe-main, or BT, none of which are as optimal as the spartan and lady knight.

(the pirate, meanwhile, is perhaps harder to get than the Spartan and yet not nearly as universal in her application. And I heard there's a Pocahontas merc coming up, but no one knows what she does yet. I imagine she'll probably be an archer or something and thus not someone you'd want on the front line)

Taikan
11-20-2008, 01:26 PM
"-this is madness..
-THIS IS SPARTAAA!!!"
should be worth the mad quest :P

anyway how good is bt for a tank?? o.o seems kinda weak to magic, at least at lower lvls... does the situation improve at higher lvls?

Ferishi
11-20-2008, 01:58 PM
I think one of the top 8 teams in Korea had a BT on the front line, if I recall correctly. ...but only one. BT has good enough physical defense but the magic defense is only mediocre. Still, they don't get BUTCHERED by magic like the viking, so you can put them on the front line. Of course, to make up for that, their utility isn't as good as lots of other characters too, really. Especially if you weaken her beast summon magic by equipping a guardian stone instead of a captured beast. Honestly, IMHO, you're probably better off with an Exo there (they might have less defense and HP, but they make up for it with higher magic defense and better utility in PvP). But it IS a "viable" choice, for the most part.

And in PvM, where exos are pretty crappy in most situations (most staff-monsters are both rare and a coin toss as to whether or not they're even worth mana sealing, unlike player staff mercs), I'd rather have a BT than an Exo in general.

LtKillroy
11-20-2008, 03:18 PM
I'm not so sure you'd want many of the mercs for front row, not that you should. Lady knight and spartan are pretty much solid, unless you want to run some wierd build that throws people off or something. Witch is situational, depends on how you play. There really is no definate, especially for your third choice.

methane
11-20-2008, 07:39 PM
I think ladyknight just getting for her cute face is pretty much worth it. Just kidding. She hits harder and also have high defense factor basically she has higher stats in all aspect compared to swordman. For spartan hes only losing out in magic defense again spearman, but has overall higher stats than spear. Also his warcry is invaluble in pvp lowering enemy attack value(not sure how much). And to top it off spartan can equip a shield. Definetely a front linner. Except for the weak magic defense. Hes also a must have.